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2:00 I mean why not just dump the nose? Or did he not notice it

Some helicopter pilots think it the wild west out there. More professional attitudes need to be adopted and enforced.

Reading the report amongst everything else … I was genuinely shocked to read that both planes had their ejection seats deactivated! Probably would have saved their lives tbh! Would love to know the reasoning behind that decision (cost?).

Reminds me of the XB-70 crash

An underwhelming video from an organisation that should prioritise safety and learning culture. Instead a crumb trail of blame factors to promote the judging of deceased in the kangaroo court of public opinion. The lack of context and ability of others to learn from any of the errors and systematic deficiencies is average.

Not everyone is a Blur Angel

In my basic flying training I was introduced to imc. Wore a shroud to limit view to the instruments only, instructor monitoring. Now qualifies SEP land,[16 yrs], I avoid flying if a risk, and even if a sea fog rolls in gain height above use vor and radio for vectors, life is precious.

Moronic. These are the guys we will end up reading about in the paper. Not on the front page, in the obituaries.

What a load of bs. It was nothing to do with briefing. The pilot of the lower jet just stuffed up. Rule number 1 keep your eye on the other aircraft and dont hit it. Thats all that went on here. Poor pilot execution of a straightforward manoeuvre (well straightforward for an experienced formation rated pilot..

couple of clown pilots who thought they were the bees knees

Is this your idea of fun mav?

@pilot-debrief needs to do a video on this

Alternate ending for TopGun, Maverick dismissed!

Play stupid games.

Wow, there will be a huge chase the money claim coming

Should have got Maverick instead of Viper, he can fly inverted.

Let’s just leave the formation flying to the professionals no need for this tom-foolery for civilians

Why did it go so close to the other plane. Were they looking?

Haven’t these clowns heard of GoPro cams fitted for aerial photography or any photography

BECAUSE I WAS INVERTED

Formation basics: Brief the Flight. Fly the Brief.

Did the ATSB miss yet another glaring CASA failure? The report states (I have read the full report) that, the pilot of Viper 1 had the, "required ratings, endorsements and type training, to operate the S211, as a pilot in command". However, at the same time he had a safety pilot medical restriction, that any aircraft flown by the pilot, be configured in a side-by-side, seating configuration. How can he, at the same time, be allowed to fly an aircraft with tandem seating as a "pilot in command"? As the regulating authority, shouldn't CASA, at the same time as issuing his safety pilot safety medical restriction, have revoked his rating to fly the S211 as a "pilot in command"?

So the better part of a year later, a bunch of armchair generals concluded that sometimes, things don’t go the way we want. We hear ‘pilot error’ and we equate it with gross negligence. Incorrect. Pilot error happens all the time. Amazingly frequent. Sometimes it doesn’t end well. Usually, it’s fine. These weren’t your Dad’s 152s. This wasn’t a QantasLink flight. Subsonic, yes, but still fast jets. In close formation flying. Blue angels. Thunderbirds. Black knights. Red Sales…etc…even the very best pilots are still human. some of the families will know exactly what I’m referring to. Some might not. However, the very reason there were cameras in these ships is because this wasn’t routine flying. And because we’re not talking air transport, if there wasn’t any risk, then what the bloody hell is the point…

step outside the box at your own risk.

Piloterror

So, we have the answer to the premise of that planned "reality show": Anyone can fly... no, no, they cannot. Especially not if you start with jet aerobatics, instead of the way nearly all of us did it: in a beat up old Cessna, the old and slow way.

Cowboys with cameras. Stunt flying requires meticulous preparation, but it seems that the requirements of the TV show came first. My thoughts are with the families of the two victims.

Changeing things mid flight...always a risk.

With all things aviation, you MUST remember that the simplest of things can have the most catestrophic of outcomes.

My goodness they were lucky that it wasn’t much worse but to penetrate the fuselage as well is crazy. Great job ATSB!

Thanks for the heads up. Much appreciated 🙏

Another low hour pilot.

So piolet errorhad he checked it they will.be alive today sad

There’s no such thing as inadvertent IMC! That’s a Pilot way behind the aircraft making piss poor airmanship decisions 😠

The word on the street is training has become a case of 'which school gets pilots along the way the quickest"..... A 16-year-old flying solo after one month is questionable surely.

Why wouldnt they be required to have instrument rating qualifications if taking on paying customers in that region though? A person getting on a paid flight assumes the pilot has all the required skills, not just the bare minimum licence.

Porqué no usó el autopilot ? Ese helicóptero lo tiene,incluso NAV !

To SLOW and too LOW

Human factors would seem a significant issue. The mishap pilot owned the aircraft and the operation (which was created specifically for the documentary being filmed) and though by no means inexperienced, was relatively inexperienced. An intelligent gentleman, who nonetheless carried out an unbriefed maneuver without warning during a close formation flight. That is not disciplined flying. Who in the operation was able to impose discipline on the owner-operator-pilot? The relatively inexperienced owner-pilot would likely have had, and felt, a level of authority disproportionate to his experience, whilst the pilots with much more experience, not only in hours, but also in quality may have been more tolerant of mis-steps in consequence of the ownership status of the gentleman. In no way do I disparage the mishap pilot, but I can't help but speculate that the way that he painted himself into this corner was by a normalisation of deviance eroding the margins between himself and disaster. Nor do I criticise the other pilots for going along with an impromptu change after the initial unbriefed action. No doubt the ATSB will in due course provide further lessons learned from this horrible event, though not worth the price paid. Flying is a dangerous business made safe by deeply considered risk management - unwarned, unbriefed and impromptu actions in formation flight make it difficult to successfully manage risks. The human reality is that we are all susceptible to these kinds of errors, so we have to work hard to minimise them.

Commercial pressure, oh and stupidity!

Was it worth it? Filming for a TV show wth a stupid name?🤮

Making decisions “on the fly” can be life-saving or disastrous depending on it’s application. It’s tragic that this ended this way. Good work to the ATSB team in investigating & recreating this for better understanding.

Or to properly name this: No, Any Fool Can NOT Fly! Peak reality TV idiocy. Search here on UA-cam for a recent tragedy of a YTer called "Tennessee Fly Girl" where it also was blatantly obvious that some people are not cut out for aviation. As for the maneuver these guys attempted: did they think they were the Blue Angels?!

All for a tv show

Very well explained video, hopefully something this does not occur again in Australian airspace.

Thanks for Posting! "Dont do anything dumb, dangerous or DIFFERENT" - It sounds like the fatal maneuver was not part of the original ground briefing....

gizmos won't fix it if pilots don't have basic IMC training - IFR isn't the answer - Army tactical maybe

Just make IFR compulsory for Commercial Flights

Presumably the pilot had a commercial licence and thus a reasonable number of hours logged?

I have to say. After looking at this plane I have like my race cars and top tier open wheel racing teams I’m not impressed. The front of my RV6A has 2.2* of negative caster. This is so backwards it ridiculous. I can’t believe a company can’t even do that. Let alone make it fly. I’m actually pisses these morons make planes. Complete morons.